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Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:34:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:
why do I see dust bunnies in local if they have nothing to do with eve .. your statement makes no sense
Because your member list settings are wrong? |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:39:00 -
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Fix Sovmechanics wrote:Zappity wrote:Deployable short range cyno jammer should help against AFK cloakers? Hopefully the nullbear whiners will shut up about it. "Doesn't stop covert cynos" Listening is hard.
Also single use and 70-100km jam range. As in, you would need to procure and drop a new one for every anomaly you run. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:51:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
This seems insufficient to constitute presuming any High Sec planets to be 'valuable'.
Off the top of my head, the temperate planets around high sec (or rather, their POCO's) are the most valuable. You buy resources at the hub, drop them down(tax), process into higher tier products, bring them up (tax) and resell at the trade hub. Bonus is you don't have hundreds of people extracting on top of you with no control, killing yield. You're not actually extracting at all and as such the planet can support as large a number of players as the supply in the trade hub can keep up with. Making the POCO that much more desirable.
Next would be the few planets that have a decent supply of things rare in high sec. The yield is bad because there's a pile of people mining with you without repercussions. Take the POCO, gouge them with taxes and they stop mining, moving their operation elsewhere. Suddenly your yield goes up on top of not paying the standard high sec POCO taxes. Win win. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:54:00 -
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Henriette Malia Alette wrote:
Which will very quickly come under control of the NS alliances
Yes, null alliances will take ALL the POCO's in High Sec and be able to hold it all at once with the power projection of their supers.
Oh wait. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:07:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:Now those depots are a nice idea. But what is preventing high sec miners from anchoring them directly in the belt and get a save can (yes you can shoot it, but there will be a reinforced mechanic)? Or is that intended? Doesn't that make the ships with the large ore hold obsolete? am i missing something? All you get is a suspect flag for shooting depots, so you'll probably want to be careful as to how and where you use them. People will be out looking to blow up your pretty toys, as it should be  .
More likely to be used in docking games just off the undock. Refitting mid-fight to get an edge or stash away the bling mods inside before they go down. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:11:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:
anyone will be able to attack those highsec poco's .. without concord intervention
if you think the tax rates are too high .. LAUNCH YOUR **** DIRECTLY INTO SPACE and pay no tax, your not forced to use the orbiting POCO .... it's not rocket science
Please enlighten us on your magical ways of making P4's without the use of a POCO
Also citation needed on Concord and POCO's, I understood that to be related to depots not POCOs. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:20:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Vald Tegor wrote:
More likely to be used in docking games just off the undock. Refitting mid-fight to get an edge or stash away the bling mods inside before they go down.
Nobody said anything about docking in them, just stash and refit so maybe you will be very vulnerable during refitting like everything disabled even under fire. Which would be funny for probing those structures and just wait under cloak for owner to warp in and spring this trap on himself :)
You missed my point.
Anchor it off the Jita 4-4 undock.
Undock in a deadspace fit battleship. Do your station game thing. Can't break the guy's tank? Refit to neuts, kill his cap, put the guns back on. He's shooting a specific damage type? Swap a hardener. About to die anyway and can't dock? Store the deadspace mods in the depot to deny the drop. (you can already do this with an Orca alt mind you)
Of course, you can still get bumped out of range. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:28:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:Vald Tegor wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:
anyone will be able to attack those highsec poco's .. without concord intervention
if you think the tax rates are too high .. LAUNCH YOUR **** DIRECTLY INTO SPACE and pay no tax, your not forced to use the orbiting POCO .... it's not rocket science
Please enlighten us on your magical ways of making P4's without the use of a POCO Also citation needed on Concord and POCO's, I understood that to be related to depots not POCOs. I can confirm that statement from CCP Fozzie today on EVE TV @ 2000 UTC announcement for Rubicon. He said very clearly and unambiguously that POCO's will NOT be protected by Concord (paraphrasing)
I'm also paraphrasing and understood "no concord involvement, at most you will get a suspect flag" to be specifically referring to the four new personal anchorable modules.
Therefore, citation needed.
Required wardec fees for POCO's would do interesting things as a gold sink and the fluctuating cost of that would have interesting impact on the balance of control. But without a required wardec it would be a constant state of "welp, can't do my PI today the POCO got randomly reinforced again". |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:34:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Refitting during combat??
I expect it will work just like the fleet hangar and ship maintenance bay on a Carrier/Orca, so yes. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:36:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:
I'd guess he meant no concord taking out the npc custom offices, but normal wardecs would be necessary to take out POCOs.
That sounds far more plausible |
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Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:51:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Vald Tegor wrote:Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Refitting during combat??
I expect it will work just like the fleet hangar and ship maintenance bay on a Carrier/Orca, so yes. But maybe it won't be harder to kill it than Carrier/Orca? :)
Carriers and Orcas don't have reinforce timers. Though the amount of damage to reinforce it might be very low to prevent in combat use. But shooting it also gives the attacker a suspect timer, turning it into a bait for getting your friends in on the kill. |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:53:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Oh, and the cartels must be adoring the new cyno jammer. First supercap fleet in wins. Counter drops is a thing of the past.
BL and PL must be hating Fozzie.
Because we already know it anchors and onlines instantly and has the EHP of a station, right? |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:56:00 -
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blue dehazon wrote:i agre,this game turning more and more in to a playground for the large alliances and les and les a game for smal corp or singel player,if the next expancion gose the same way then am don whid this game.
Actually, this looks like something for smaller high-sec bound corps to get into as they grow, before they can handle defending such assets in low sec vs capital/supercap fleets.
Or were you expecting to hold a POCO as a corp with three players and half a dozen alts? |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:22:00 -
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blue dehazon wrote:Vald Tegor wrote:blue dehazon wrote:i agre,this game turning more and more in to a playground for the large alliances and les and les a game for smal corp or singel player,if the next expancion gose the same way then am don whid this game.
Actually, this looks like something for smaller high-sec bound corps to get into as they grow, before they can handle defending such assets in low sec vs capital/supercap fleets. Or were you expecting to hold a POCO as a corp with three players and half a dozen alts? i wont tray that. just stop doing PI
I bet you stop running missions too because there's a tax on the bounty and a one man corp is too easy to wadec, right? |
Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:25:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:On high sec POCOs:
Having a null alliance take them all over and lock everyone out will bad for new players, and casual players.
Implying new or casual players are incapable of joining a high sec organization that is capable of holding their own POCO or has blue standings with another entity who does.
The M stands for Multiplayer.
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Vald Tegor
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:28:00 -
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Kyle Maltese wrote:Zeus Maximo wrote:Kyle Maltese wrote:
The new missiles are going to be a great addition. Imagine a small fleet of BSes taking on a larger frigate fleet. No more are Battleships only really viable in a fleet; FW is going to be seeing them a lot more now that they can defend themselves with more than just drones.
I do not follow this. How will missiles help out bs's and how does any of this affect drones? What are they doing that changes this much? Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers, if I remember right. They'll be more effective vs frigates than anything else, especially if BSes get bonuses to them ( I believe they hinted towards that in the video, but I could be wrong).
Yes a raven will be able to fire bonused Precision Heavy missiles with a higher rate of fire than a standard heavy missile launcher.
It's also still going to be a Raven. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:46:00 -
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blue dehazon wrote:Its more likly to be the bigg aliances in hisec and losec that will be intrested, and pirats (gankers) that all redy operate in hisec .0 sec corp migth be intrested if valu on hisec PI matrials gos mutch higer up in price,the problem however is that it take weeks to fill up a lounch pad whid higer lvl products and bay that time ther migth be a new owner of the POCO asking for a mutch higer tax.so way bother to do PI at all then.
CCP might re-balance things at any time, like they did with the Drake and Hurricane. So why bother playing at all, if tomorrow's profit won't match what your spreadsheet says today? God forbid you take in-game actions to protect your investment on the things you can control... |
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